2024 4CC Women FS - Flutz, Caution

[airgelaal]

The perfect way to end the competition

 

[JoannaLouise]

Well no one held onto their hats, but Chris would like you to take them off to Mone!

 

[her grace]

Oh jeez!!!! I'm thoroughly annoyed that is behind either Kim or Watanabe.

Then she needs to put some combos/sequences in second half. She gave it away on tech.

Also should work on basics as she deservedly lost out on skating skills. Her program had the most noticeable slow rest breaks of the three skaters.

 

[Aceon6]

Mone Mone, hey Mone Mone. Yeah, yeah, yeah!

 

[Kateri]

Mone back to her junior form! Whatever the issue was at the start of her senior career (nerves? asthma? both?) she certainly seems to have sorted it out!

 

[MacMadame]

Well, she realy was "by far and away the best" so Chris better say it! (Except he didn't. Bastard.)

 

[Holy Headband]

Gorgeous edges, spirals and spins from Mone. I love the fluidity in (and between) her spin positions.

 

[SkateFanBerlin]

Ziegler probably going to be just short of a medal here, but I think she'll be first alternate for Worlds for sure. And let the Monday morning quarterbacking begin because this performance surely would have won US Nationals.... Still not sure of the viability of the strategy of relying on a +2A+2A sequence long term.

She skated well here. If she can add some tech she could be a factor. Turn one 3-2 to a 3-2-2 and get a 3-3 in somewhere.

 

[skatingguy]

Our Hat's Are Off

 

[Aceon6]

She skated well here. If she can add some tech she could be a factor. Turn one 3-2 to a 3-2-2 and get a 3-3 in somewhere.

Agree. The panel likes her, but she needs to find 5+ points somewhere.

 

[Frau Muller]

Mone Chiba at her very best in a dream skate to Legend of 1900…symphonic style music that elevates my soul! Brava!
I’m still proud of Ziegler!

 

[skatingguy]

She skated well here. If she can add some tech she could be a factor. Turn one 3-2 to a 3-2-2 and get a 3-3 in somewhere.

She actually did a triple, double, double. The only way she could up the technical score would be to move a combo to the 2nd half.

 

[Karen-W]

Then she needs to put some combos/sequences in second half. She gave it away on tech.

Also should work on basics as she deservedly lost out on skating skills. Her program had the most noticeable slow rest breaks of the three skaters.

Honestly? I don't mind the rest breaks. I appreciate the moments where the program and skating can just breathe. Plus, her spins were so fast and with wonderful positions. She'd bring down the house if allowed to earn good points with a fast, centered scratch spin to close out the program.

 

[MacMadame]

Whee! Great skate, Mone

 

[victorskid]

The final results of the Free Skate:

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1​	Mone CHIBA	JPN	143.88​	75.42​		68.46​	8.39​	8.61​	8.64​	0.00​	#24​
2​	Rinka WATANABE	JPN	134.95​	69.43​		65.52​	8.07​	8.11​	8.36​	0.00​	#20​
3​	Chaeyeon KIM	KOR	134.91​	69.73​		66.18​	8.36​	8.11​	8.32​	1.00​	#22​
4​	Ava Marie ZIEGLER	USA	132.94​	67.71​		65.23​	8.18​	8.18​	8.07​	0.00​	#23​
5​	Seoyeong WI	KOR	129.13​	70.00​		59.13​	7.29​	7.29​	7.57​	0.00​	#19​
6​	Madeline SCHIZAS	CAN	124.12​	63.64​		60.48​	7.61​	7.61​	7.43​	0.00​	#17​
7​	Mai MIHARA	JPN	118.89​	55.26​		63.63​	7.86​	7.86​	8.11​	0.00​	#21​
8​	Sara-Maude DUPUIS	CAN	116.45​	60.30​		56.15​	7.00​	7.07​	6.96​	0.00​	#14​
9​	Haein LEE	KOR	113.31​	52.31​		62.00​	7.75​	7.61​	7.86​	1.00​	#15​
10​	Tzu-Han TING	TPE	112.70​	57.78​		54.92​	6.89​	6.75​	6.93​	0.00​	#13​
11​	Elyce LIN-GRACEY	USA	111.15​	54.09​		58.06​	7.29​	7.32​	7.14​	1.00​	#16​
12​	Lindsay THORNGREN	USA	98.52​	42.89​		56.63​	7.39​	6.75​	7.07​	1.00​	#18​
13​	Justine MICLETTE	CAN	98.37​	47.18​		51.19​	6.46​	6.46​	6.25​	0.00​	#7​
14​	Hongyi CHEN	CHN	97.99​	47.84​		50.15​	6.25​	6.07​	6.46​	0.00​	#9​
15​	Jiaying CHENG	CHN	93.52​	52.95​		41.57​	5.18​	4.96​	5.43​	1.00​	#4​
16​	Andrea MONTESINOS CANTU	MEX	92.38​	43.24​		50.14​	6.21​	6.21​	6.36​	1.00​	#12​
17​	Sofia Lexi Jacqueline FRANK	PHI	92.36​	48.97​		43.39​	5.36​	5.43​	5.46​	0.00​	#2​
18​	Sofiya FARAFONOVA	KAZ	90.22​	45.59​		44.63​	5.50​	5.50​	5.71​	0.00​	#11​
19​	Yi ZHU	CHN	86.75​	39.70​		50.05​	6.32​	6.11​	6.32​	3.00​	#10​
20​	Joanna SO	HKG	82.86​	39.47​		45.39​	5.64​	5.54​	5.82​	2.00​	#8​
21​	Maria CHERNYSHOVA	AUS	78.35​	39.64​		40.71​	4.93​	4.93​	5.39​	2.00​	#3​
22​	Anna LEVKOVETS	KAZ	72.51​	35.50​		37.01​	4.61​	4.50​	4.75​	0.00​	#6​
23​	Nuriya SULEIMEN	KAZ	70.29​	35.17​		37.12​	4.54​	4.50​	4.86​	2.00​	#1​
24​	Amanda HSU	TPE	66.06​	32.05​		34.01​	4.14​	4.14​	4.46​	0.00​	#5​

Overall results:

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1	Mone CHIBA	JPN	71.10	1
2	Chaeyeon KIM	KOR	69.77	2
3	Ava Marie ZIEGLER	USA	68.25	3
4	Rinka WATANABE	JPN	67.22	4
5	Mai MIHARA	JPN	65.18	5
6	Seoyeong WI	KOR	64.44	6
7	Lindsay THORNGREN	USA	64.11	7
8	Elyce LIN-GRACEY	USA	62.83	8
9	Madeline SCHIZAS	CAN	61.57	9
10	Tzu-Han TING	TPE	59.17	10
11	Haein LEE	KOR	56.07	11
12	Sara-Maude DUPUIS	CAN	56.00	12
13	Hongyi CHEN	CHN	55.97	13
14	Justine MICLETTE	CAN	52.93	14
15	Yi ZHU	CHN	52.77	15
16	Andrea MONTESINOS CANTU	MEX	50.86	16
17	Joanna SO	HKG	50.07	17
18	Sofiya FARAFONOVA	KAZ	47.57	18
19	Nuriya SULEIMEN	KAZ	45.69	19
20	Maria CHERNYSHOVA	AUS	43.29	20
21	Sofia Lexi Jacqueline FRANK	PHI	42.43	21
22	Jiaying CHENG	CHN	41.77	22
23	Amanda HSU	TPE	39.60	23
24	Anna LEVKOVETS	KAZ	39.56	24

Protocols link: http://www.isuresults.com/results/s...------FNL-000100--_JudgesDetailsperSkater.pdf

 

[skatingguy]

Then she needs to put some combos/sequences in second half. She gave it away on tech.

Also should work on basics as she deservedly lost out on skating skills. Her program had the most noticeable slow rest breaks of the three skaters.

I think the lack of audience here hurt Ziegler's skate - the audience at NHK responded to her skating, and her performance responded in turn.

 

[her grace]

Chiba doing her job here to build her reputation before Worlds! Nice skates from the top five.

 

[MacMadame]

Well, I'm off to bed. It's almost 4am here.

ETA and I forgot to eat ice cream.

 

[PRlady]

Woke up in time to see the last five. It’s infuriating to lose a medal by a point but she does need to clean up her lutz and flip entries. Pleased to see Elyse did decently but looks like Lindsay had a rough skate.

 

[Lanie]

Thank you all (and the ladies) for distracting and entertaining me while I’m awake and hurting from my stupid knee surgery! Bedtime for me.

 

[Aceon6]

Woke up in time to see the last five. It’s infuriating to lose a medal by a point but she does need to clean up her lutz and flip entries. Pleased to see Elyse did decently but looks like Lindsay had a rough skate.

Lindsay frustrates the heck out of me. She did well enough once she settled into her fully grown body, but she’s regressing. I guess my fandom would be better off if I didn’t get attached to anyone’s skating.

 

[Frau Muller]

I need a nitty gritty or top drawer for a bingo with one more skater.

Also I must have blacked out Ziegler's music because of that stupid baby voiceover crap.

I hope that Team Ziegler finds grand symphonic (not nec’ly classical but in symphonic style) for next season. She’s outgrown her jazzy Beth Hart phase.

 

[honey]

I find it very impressive how much Ava has reigned in her jumps over the last few months.

However, she still has a bit of an awkward way about her landings, and her basic skating in general. Her arms are out in front of her almost all the time and it puts her off balance. Her coaches have done an amazing job in trying to correct this, but landing that way makes it so the jump has to be pretty perfectly landed so she’ll have a chance. It’s like her arms aren’t used to brace herself at all.

But she’s got tons of speed which goes a long way with her PCS. I think this program as boring as the day is long because of the music and I think she’s much better than this. Also maybe get away from Morozov?

If she plays her cards right I could see her firmly fighting with Isabeau and Amber for USA number 1 status next season. So much potential here for her.

 

[BlueRidge]

Mona Chiba's skating is so lovely. Wonderful to see her deliver a great skate under pressure.

 

[sk8nlizard]

Well, she's injured.

How visible was it though? If you didn't know she was going to jump there, could you tell?

I’m watching this tape delayed, but you could absolutely tell. She did the long left forward outside three turn and then put her right foot down and glided backward on two feet and brought her arms into a rotating position. It looked exactly like when someone’s doing a choreography run through and is skating through the jumps.

 

[jenny12]

I really enjoyed Mone Chiba and might just have to stan. Such lovely quality and I enjoyed her music. Suited her wonderfully.

 

[Wyliefan]

I watched both spoiled and unspoiled, so to speak. I turned on women's when I woke up and was just in time to see the last shot of the podium. But I didn't read anything before I watched, so I had no idea what had happened to Ava. I'm glad it was just small things, not a meltdown, and she still came in fourth. And I'm happy Rinka and Mone did so well.

But Lindsay ... what on earth happened there? I almost wished I'd been spoiled for that one, it was so devastating to watch.

 

[Private Citizen]

Harsh call to give Ziegler an "e" on the second lutz. That made the difference in the medals. I don't recall her ever receiving an "e" before. I put Ziegler in the Levito camp of both lutz and flip taking off from unclear edges. The angle isn't the best, but I really disagree with this call especially when compared to some others.

I thought she was going to end up fourth anyway and am OK with the result, just don't like it was due to this questionable call.

 

[Karen-W]

I watched both spoiled and unspoiled, so to speak. I turned on women's when I woke up and was just in time to see the last shot of the podium. But I didn't read anything before I watched, so I had no idea what had happened to Ava. I'm glad it was just small things, not a meltdown, and she still came in fourth. And I'm happy Rinka and Mone did so well.

But Lindsay ... what on earth happened there? I almost wished I'd been spoiled for that one, it was so devastating to watch.

Worse than Nats - you could see how this injury has taken its toll on her physically.

 

[Karen-W]

Harsh call to give Ziegler an "e" on the second lutz. That made the difference in the medals. I don't recall her ever receiving an "e" before. I put Ziegler in the Levito camp of both lutz and flip taking off from unclear edges. The angle isn't the best, but I really disagree with this call especially when compared to some others.

I thought she was going to end up fourth anyway and am OK with the result, just don't like it was due to this questionable call.

This panel was not nice at all. Not a single woman had a clean skate according to them - either an unclear edge or a rotation issue.

I suspect the ones going to Worlds are going to fare much better score-wise if they skate as well as they did here.