Icetalavista
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Just looked at results (didn’t watch) and I don’t think I’ve ever seen more movement between phases of a competition in any discipline for so many skaters. Any theories?
Have you never seen a men's event before? I didn't think there was any wacky amounts of movement myself. I think it's partially because there are no Russian teams, so there's no obvious/consistent top 3. This particular competition had a lot of wonky lifts as well, so some of the big drops in placements were due to that.Just looked at results (didn’t watch) and I don’t think I’ve ever seen more movement between phases of a competition in any discipline for so many skaters. Any theories?
In other words, when applied correctly, COP does what it is designed to do.Have you never seen a men's event before? I didn't think there was any wacky amounts of movement myself. I think it's partially because there are no Russian teams, so there's no obvious/consistent top 3. This particular competition had a lot of wonky lifts as well, so some of the big drops in placements were due to that.Just looked at results (didn’t watch) and I don’t think I’ve ever seen more movement between phases of a competition in any discipline for so many skaters. Any theories?
It's more difficult to add time than take it away. I wonder if they plan to do junior or senior worlds?Anastasiia Metelkina/Luka Berulava
Coach: P. Sliusarenko, E. Zakroev, M. Trankov
Music: The Millionaire Waltz by Queen
Triple Twist Lift 4
3S - she fell
Throw 3F
3T+1A+2T+SEQ - she singled the 2nd jump, he doubled
Axel Lasso Lift 4
Back Outside Death Spiral 3
Choreo Sequence
Throw 3Lo
Reverse Lasso Lift 4
Hand/Hip Lift 4
Pair Combo Spin 4
At the Junior Grand Prix Final this program had a lightness, and surety that was not present in this performance. This version of the program seemed to drag on, and they didn't have the confidence. The pressure of leading after the short program may have gotten to them.
124.84 = 5th Place
196.14 = 2nd Place
They got more world standing points for 2nd at Europeans than they can get for winning Junior Worlds, and since only one ISU Championship event per season is counted in the standings there is zero reason for them to go to Junior Worlds. They're in the running for a medal, if not the win, at the World Championships, and going to Junior Worlds isn't going to help them.It's more difficult to add time than take it away. I wonder if they plan to do junior or senior worlds?
I’m not sure that the Georgian federation doesn’t need the title of World Junior ChampionsThey got more world standing points for 2nd at Europeans than they can get for winning Junior Worlds, and since only one ISU Championship event per season is counted in the standings there is zero reason for them to go to Junior Worlds. They're in the running for a medal, if not the win, at the World Championships, and going to Junior Worlds isn't going to help them.
Lol . I LIKE movement. If the rankings stay the same between segments, then the judges aren’t doing their jobs or the segments aren’t different enough or the skills being performed aren’t difficult enough to result in errors and therefore scoring changes. I like dance but I look at the lockstep rankings and wonder why they bother doing more than one segment (in my crankier moments).Have you never seen a men's event before? I didn't think there was any wacky amounts of movement myself. I think it's partially because there are no Russian teams, so there's no obvious/consistent top 3. This particular competition had a lot of wonky lifts as well, so some of the big drops in placements were due to that.
I think the issue is the scoring system. COP seems to work well for events with high-risk elements but I don't think it works well for ice dance. Or maybe it's just how it's set up. All those Choreographic sequences that don't get levels are a big issue IMO.I like dance but I look at the lockstep rankings and wonder why they bother doing more than one segment (in my crankier moments).
France retains two. It is treated exactly the same way as if the Kovalevs had started their Free Skate and not finished. It gets 12 points for having a pair that finished twelfth, and sixteen for a pair that finished 16th. 12+16=28. The maximum sum to gain two spots is 28.I don’t think France retains two since Kovalevs’ mid-competition withdrawal makes it as if France only had one entry. At least that’s how Russia was treated at junior worlds the year 2 competitors dropped out and their remaining entrant earned 3 spots by finishing in the top 2.
Illness.Trying to catch up on so much stuff, so what was Camille’s injury after the short program? Is she OK?